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404/Errors/Etc
I keep getting a whole boatload of errors every time I try making an edit, upload a file, or creating a new page. So I've been having incredible troubles dealing with it and I'm wondering what's going on.

P.S. How ironic. Just got this when trying to submit:

The webpage at http://telarapedia.com/wiki/User_talk:Ciovala#404.2FErrors.2FEtc might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address. --SinisteRing 02:07, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Testing Edits --(U: bctrainers / T: Discussion) 10:52, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Well the 101 error doesn't really break stuff - they do still save even with that annoying error. However, yes there are some issues with the server move I'm trying to get some people to fix.  I'm hoping it's a temporary issue associated with how they do migrations. -- Ciovala Talk 10:56, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

We will be looking at these issues Kaelten

Guild mistake.
Ciovala,

Howdy! I have a problem. I made a my guild Wiki page here before I made an account, now I can't edit it. How do I go about doing that so I can add some more stuff to my guilds info? The guild is listed under Shatterbone Guilds. The name of the guild is Strength In Honor.

any help you can provide would be great! thanks!

Quenta/Jon
 * I have replied on Quenta's talk page to follow up.   Maygus  talk &bull; cont 05:58, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

What is says it that I don't have permission to edit the page, no particular error, just that I don't have permission to edit any of the sections.
 * Just to clarify, you cannot even edit http://telarapedia.com/w/index.php?title=Guild:Strength_In_Honor&action=formedit ? If it won't let you, what is the exact error? -- Ciovala Talk 17:05, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Craft skill level template
I need to see if I can get CraftSkillLevel converted over as a template. Rift uses this color scheme to show whether or not a recipe will/could grant a skillup, and I'd like to have this template (maybe you can come up with a better name for it?) available so when we update recipes, we can use the template to show what level different recipes change color in our crafting. Saluce65 17:19, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It sounds like a great idea, but any chance you could show us it in action on a Sandbox page, like User:Saluce65/Sandbox? -- Ciovala Talk 17:25, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. User:Saluce65/Sandbox should give you an idea of what I'm looking at for template usage and appearance.  Saluce65 17:44, 21 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting us create and edit certain templates. I've created a recipelevel template to help with inputting colors of recipes.  Basically, it has two usage forms (see recipelevel documentation, but, basically, the easiest and most efficient method is to enter 10 and it'll give you .  It'll also handle not having all the information (for instance, you know that the reciple is yellow at 100, but you don't know the rest) by filling in "?" for subsequent colors.  So, say you enter recipelevel, you'll get .  Notice it skipped anything for orange, because it doesn't know if the recipe is ever orange (some recipes start at grey, for example). Hopefully that'll help with the recipes.  (Oh, and CraftSkillLevel can be deleted.) Saluce65 | talk 03:27, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Error requesting confirmation email
I'm getting an error trying to confirm my email through Gmail. After clicking the "Mail a confirmation code", the page returns with the following information: Saluce65 | talk  18:29, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Telarapedia could not send your confirmation mail. Please check your e-mail address for invalid characters.
 * Mailer returned: Failed to connect to ssl://smtp.gmail.com:465 [SMTP: Failed to connect socket: Unable to find the socket transport "ssl" - did you forget to enable it when you configured PHP? (code: -1, response: )]
 * Ciovala is aware of this, and it affects all email providers, however the error only references GMail. We expect it to be fixed sometime in the future. Till then, hold tight. Ash  fang  21:33, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I've been told this should be fixed now. -- Ciovala Talk 21:46, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It is fixed, thank you. Saluce65 | talk 03:45, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Crafting Profession names
Can we switch these back to what they are actually called in-game instead of what one player appears to want to call them? The profession is "Runecrafter", the icon to the abilities therein says "Runecrafter", the trainer is called a "Runecrafter Trainer". Despite the act of making runes being called "Runecrafting", the game does not support that as the factual name of the profession.

Stormbow | talk 13:13, 21 February 2011 (PST)
 * Well, this could be an oversight on Trion's part as it sounds better to have a runecrafting trainer. It really should be called runecrafting, as that is the verb. Ash  fang  21:36, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I can see this going either way, but honestly as long as there is a redirect from one to the other and then we stay consistent, it doesn't matter that much. It is one of those things I've sort of thought about for a while...  However, I do believe we should follow exactly how things are in game, so Stormbow is right in that it makes more sense to be Runecrafter...  If you do that, the wording on the page also has to be appropriate.  Like 'Runecrafting is a profession...' would have to be 'A runecrafter does x y z'. -- Ciovala Talk 21:54, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok. I saw that they do redirect from the original Runecrafter to Runecrafting, but was thinking it's best to stay strictly to what was in-game.  I know it's just semantic, but sometimes semantics are important to people that don't fully understand such things are related.  (Noob gamers. heh)

4dreas (sorry, forgot the name, some Sysop) made the changes and page moves or redirects from Runecrafter to Runecrafting and other changes on the Crafting>(redirected to)>Profession page. I don't know how to change that stuff back. I'm still very new to all this, actually. (I could barely post this first talk message. LOL) Stormbow | talk 14:42, 22 February 2011 (PST)

Item template - Crafting Material
Hi there,

Just started updating some bits relating to crafting and noticed the following couple of oddities.

Firstly, there appears to be no way to add the line Crafting Material under the name section, I have included the type=Crafting Material and it still does nothing?

Secondly, the item tool tip has recently started showing text asking for Item Requirements / Level / Class etc.. and I cannot find a way to stop these showing. This would make sense if the item was a piece of armour or weapon, however the bars and ore only have a level required to harvest / forge them and this does not seem to be avaliable as an option (its not shown in the game when looking at teh tooltip so is more relevant manually entered on the main mining page table) Sythril 21:54, 21 February 2011 (GMT) Sythril 22:11, 21 February 2011 (GMT)
 * Hi there! You have some good comments, but could you add your suggestions to the template's talk page?  I do edit many of them, but there is often a maintainer on templates who is best to start these discussions with.   It does sound like we need some more changes to the template and also the tooltip - thanks for pointing these out! -- Ciovala Talk 21:56, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, I will add the above into the item talk section, thanks for the quick response. I did post this onto the forums however that seems to be non responsive so thought id try here.
 * Just thought I would post, that I think I may have fixed this, as it was a comment that was not closed correctly within the template. I closed it, and it appears to have gone away. Let me know if I've fixed it. Ash  fang  22:50, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes this appears to have fixed the issue, I did post a response to this however it appears to have dissapeared? Thanks for having a look.Sythril 08:11, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Unable to edit!
I don't know if this is intended or not, but regular users cannot edit categories or templates. While I can see this as being a cautious change to inhibit vandalism, it also limits editors from making templates. This, as you can probably imagine, could become a pain for the people can edit templates and categories as our editorial base grows. Maybe unlock it and fullyprotect the important templates? Ash fang  21:59, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know if you did it or what, but the issue seems to have resolved itself. Thanks! Ash  fang  22:23, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Glad it is working now! -- Ciovala Talk 23:27, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Guild page problems.
So I was an idiot. I created a guild page here... but I did it before I registered. So now that I am registered and I tried to edit it more, it says I don't have permission. Anyway to get that fixed? The guild is called, "Strength In Honor". Its under the Shatterbone server guilds.


 * I used the form to 'edit' the SiH page (no modifications were made, I just added a note at the bottom and saved). I didn't receive any errors for this stating that I wasn't the original owner. I'm guesstimating that the requester - Quenta? Is there a specific error that you're seeing? Are you editing by the form, or are you editing manually?

Pri 08:21, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Spam Filter Woes
Hey there! I was trying to add some information to the Aedraxis page, but I keep getting refused because the spam filter doesn't like the reference URL that I used. It's a link to the official website's page on Orphiel Farwind (I tried linking it here, but the spam filter won't let me do that even)! So... what should I do? I don't want to add the information without the approapriate citation. :-/

Lady2beetle 15:39, 22 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I have a similar post in the Forums, under Wiki Administration (well, 2 posts similar). Maygus is working on one of my issues; might want to pop in and post the problem there, as well. Pri 16:25, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah I noticed this too and have reported it. I think the db we query for spamblacklist has had a lot of odd settings added to it so we're seeing what is going on. -- Ciovala Talk 18:05, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You guys rock, thanks Ciovala! Pri 18:14, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oddly I think I get a strange error on another wiki. Can people show me some examples via pastebin or something) of page edits that get blocked? -- Ciovala Talk 18:30, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I admit I don't know how to use pastebin.... :-/ But I think I can put it into Pri's post on the Wiki Administration board? Lady2beetle 18:47, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, here are 2 screenshots of the error. I've uploaded them, since Pastebin only allows for text. ->>Pri 18:49, 22 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Can you see if it works now?-- Ciovala Talk 19:30, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It does! Thank you thank you thank you! You rock! :D Lady2beetle 20:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

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=== Perfect, thanks for all the hard work! ->>Pri 20:35, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Formatting recipe lists
I'm going to repaste this into the talk pages of each crafting profession, but I've developed a template for recipes that is generic enough to be useful in any profession but robust enough to allow customization for specific aspects of a profession. It's Template:recipe, with fairly complete documentation on how to use it. (Yes, I gleefully ripped the original template off the Apothecary page and tweaked it to my own liking.) You can see what I ultimately want to do with the recipes at User:Saluce65/Sandbox/Artificing_recipes. My thought is to move all the recipes to their own pages, separate them out by skill level, and mix together the bought/trained recipes. What do you think?  Saluce65  talk  23:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Caught me just as I was heading to bed! But, it is looking good - thanks for the hard work.  However, it's worth working with User:Maygus to make sure if we make this change that the tooltip popups still work, etc.  Thanks for taking the initiative! -- Ciovala Talk 23:31, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Guild Images
Guild images are being improperly named, which is going to become a problem once more people make guild pages on the wiki. I suggest we delete all the affected images (uploading them properly, possibly) and making the rule a little more visible on the guild form. People seem to be either ignoring or simply not noticing the message. Anyways, keep on trucking! Ash fang  03:37, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Item Images
Hi, thanks for your note. I'm new to editing wiki's, but I think I'll be able to contribute a lot, especially with correcting language mistakes, etc. I had a question about item images - I found the page itself, but searching through there 200 images at a time isn't going to work out for me. Am I missing a search feature? How would I go about finding a specific image?

--Thanks TheNorCal 04:11, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the post here! :) I'd not worry too much, there are a lot of great people who can go back and fix 'the little things'. As for icons, you can sometimes guess by searching for a term and hitting 'multimedia' on the search results page, but yes, it's not perfect so not sure what to do to make life easier, unfortunately. :( -- Ciovala Talk 17:11, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

--Ok, no problem. I got lucky with the method you described a couple times, i'll keep at it!

Guild Organization by Shard?
Hey, Ciovala! Something just occured to me as I was entering in my guild's information. Each guild page is based on the title of the guild, but it is very possible (and often likely) to have more than one guild of the same name over all shards and factions. So... how will that work?
 * Yeah I've wondered about this myself. However, what would we do for guilds who are on multiple shards? Just thinking some options out loud here. :) -- Ciovala Talk 21:53, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Well.... my only thought is to set it up so that every guild's page has a prefix? Like Byriel-D:The Syndicate for a guild named The Syndicate on Byriel shard, Defiant side. The catch is... we'd have to make the 'add a guild' feature ask for shard and faction first before letting you search/edit/add a guild. And I'm sure that's not easy to code..... Lady2beetle 23:29, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Can be done quite simply. [Guild:Guild Name (Shard)]  Likely-hood of multiple guilds on the same shard are ... impossible to my knowledge, we can either apply it accross the board to all guilds irregardless of duplicates, or we can do it only for those guilds that get duplicate names and the primary page will be a disambig page. :)   Maygus  talk &bull;  cont 23:36, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguation of articles
Hello Ciovala!

First off, I'd like to say thanks for getting a wiki up and running :)

I left a question on the forum a couple of days ago, but given that it's so far gone without an answer, I figured I'd post it here (since this seems to be the go-to place for questions).

I know there is a facility to add in redirects for certain pages - however, I'm just wondering if we should add a disambiguation page for similarly named items. Example - artifacts and place names. We have Scarlet Gorge the area, but there is also an artifact collection called Scarlet Gorge.

How should this situation be dealt with? I'm more than happy to add in a disambiguation page in these cases, and set up relevant re-directs, but I have no idea what the format of such a page would be. Some thoughts on this would be much appreciated! Normally, I'd be all bold and just go ahead and do it, but this could end up being a large project with the number of similarly named items/areas in the game, that some kind of policy to follow on this would be very helpful!

Sorry this turned into an essay - and thanks in advance! Lyger talk 13:50, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay, I was out of town for almost two weeks between new job and school! Yeah this is somethin that needs to be discussed - have you dropped by Telarapedia:IRC? In many cases we need to do a disambiguation, but I still think for some 'core articles' the main name should go to them as opposed to a disambiguation page...but in many other cases a disambiguation page would be better.-- Ciovala Talk 11:25, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries, real life is always more important! I haven't dropped by the IRC yet - I'll check it out later. Thanks! Lyger talk 09:28, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Thumbnail error
Hi, are you the admin for the french version of Telarapedia too? There seems to be an issue with the thumbnails when uploading pictures, could you check the following link and see why it displays an error message "Erreur lors de la création de la miniature : libgomp: Thread creation failed: Resource temporarily unavailable". I've seen the same error for many other pics. The link is http://fr.telarapedia.com/wiki/Marcheur_du_Bosquet

Additionally, it appears that the MediaWiki:common.css page is not up to date on french site, which makes it hard to reuse templates. Could you fix that also?

Thanks, Aure on fr.telarapedia.com
 * Thanks for letting me know, Aure. I've asked someone to fix the thumbnail error and will look at the other error for you! --<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 08:48, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that's one less thing to worry about. The next part I'm having trouble with is the forms. I can't seem to find any special page to handle forms like Special:CreateForm, Special:Forms or Special:FormEdit. Is there something missing to support these?

Issue linking Toughness and Dodge as a stat
Looking at the Template:Item page, I do not see anything that lists Toughness as a stat.

For example, I am trying to create item: Radiant Indomitable Runeshard which its only stat is 10 toughness. I tried |toughness=10 but it did not register. Same with Brilliant Tough Rune which has 7 Endurance and 7 Dodge (I tried |dodge=7)

Are you planning on adding these stats?
 * Thanks for the head's up! Yes we'll sort that out we just have to add it to the template (didn't know they were missing).  Can you confirm that the item says dodge and not 'melee dodge' as I see we have mdodge as a stat. Thank you. --<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 08:46, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


 * I confirm the stat is Dodge not Melee Dodge. Just looked! :) I tried using |mdodge= and that worked. I'm just getting confused with all the inconsistencies in the tooltips on here vs what's actually in the game's release! But it's all good as long as there is a workaround.
 * Thank you! Can you put a screenshot of this item up somewhere so I can have a look?  One problem is we started this back in early beta and Trion keeps making changes so we have to keep updating, but things should stabilise. :) --<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 14:12, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

PvP Shard Category
Sorry if you're the wrong person to bring this to! I noticed that Category:PvP_shards has a typo on the heading text - it reads 'This category contains articles on shards with the Player-versus-Player (PvE) ruleset.'. Surely that should be 'Player-versus-Player (PvP)?

Also, if you're the wrong person to be asking about category stuff, please let me know and I'll redirect similar issues elsewhere! Cheers! Lyger talk 13:53, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed the category, thanks! Feel free to abuse me, although if I am busy pester User:Maygus when I'm not around - he likes it! --<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 14:13, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Cheers for the speedy fix! Good to add to my list of people to pester for fixes. Out of curiosity, is there any reason that Categorys and Templates are locked down? Have to admit it's the first time I've encountered them as locked on a wiki! Lyger talk 09:26, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Categories I think I'll look into unlocking. Templates were locked due to people constantly messing them up. However, I don't think most templates are really locked other than to emailconfirmed people. Check your preferences to make sure you have done the email confirmation. We do have some protected templates that are more locked down, however. --<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 12:24, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, I hid my email after I signed up. I'll get it added in again! Thanks again for all your help! Lyger talk 12:43, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Reputation value on the items
Hello, I'm trying to add couple of item to the Items section, but couldn't find the value of the PvP reward, Favor, only the value for platinum, gold and silver. Can you please advise?

And also, the |repfaction= not working for me, but of course that could be my mistake :) Can you please help me out on this as well? Thanks, cheers

Balazs
 * Hi Balazs! Could you illustrate the problem? If you can link an item screenshot it will help (for favor).  Not sure about repfaction it shows up on this item just fine -  --<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 12:26, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi, then probably I'm wrong and doing the syntax badly. The item is Declining Vigilant's Coif What about the value of the items question? the Favor currency? -Wierd, I did try again, now it's ok :)
 * Glad you got it working! As for favor, it need to be added but we're trying to decide if it should go in the pop-up tooltips we use here or just on the item page. --<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 14:38, 16 March 2011 (UTC)


 * It would be nice if there would be a nice PvP items sections, where these buyable items go, but this is just an idea, the how is your fight :) I'm waiting for the solution because I'd like to upload the buyable PvP reward items. Now, I uploaded 3 items, but without any Value
 * You can add them now as we can use favor as a cost. Check Template:Cost for the syntax to use.  It's on the agenda to make it a bit easier! --<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 17:26, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again for your help :)

Organizing location data
My thought is that zone coordinate lists could be stashed on a new page, while pages related to the lists -- the existing _artifact_locations pages, along with the pages for particular sets and artifacts -- could pull only those parts of the big list that they need.

Then all of the additions and edits happen in one big place and parser/map scripts only have to load one page, but specialized information is still readily available for smaller pages.

As far as I can tell, that functionality isn't included in the base Mediawiki install. I've been playing around with an extension that allows partial transclusion: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Labeled_Section_Transclusion -- which appears to work well without conflicting with any of the templates already being used in the lists.

You can take a look at my tests here --

http://www.psiharis.com/wiki/index.php?title=Moonshade_Highlands_artifact_locations

http://www.psiharis.com/wiki/index.php?title=Moonshade_Highlands_artifact_locations_list

http://www.psiharis.com/wiki/index.php?title=Fae_Dust_locations

http://www.psiharis.com/wiki/index.php?title=Powder_of_Growth_locations

Any chance of getting the extension installed? Template-based alternatives are ugly and break existing markup in addition to hurting my brain. :(

Psiharis 23:33, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this! Looks pretty amazing to me so I'll see what I can do about getting it installed. Not sure how snappy it will be but will enquire today. --<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 09:38, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan, let me know what you hear back. :)

I managed to beat the Photobucket API into submission today, so I don't need to be whitelisted anymore. At the moment I have the map update script uploading to a Photobucket album under my screen name. It's nearly automated, but since the script's required to go through the PB login process, the update still has to be triggered by a human. What I could do is point the script at a group album instead, and then anyone with a password or invitation to the group album would be able to run an update any time it's needed. http://photobucket.com/groupalbums/

I figure the group album in that case is best 'owned' by a wiki admin. Then new contributors can be added and images edited even if I go AWOL. ;) If you decide to set an album like that up, just shoot me the group password over PM or something, and I'll redirect the script and external links accordingly. I'd rather it not be completely public so that random people can't hammer my web host with constant updating :) But it would be good if the other coordinate collectors were able to run it after they've added a big batch of coords. Psiharis 01:15, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Not heard back on my extension request yet, but will let you know.    Great idea on the album - I'll talk to some of the other wiki admin today when I can wrangle them up in IRC and have a chat about this.--<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 09:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * FYI this is no longer an issue. A parser really isn't feasible when the wiki's templates break overnight (<2 hours after a major parser update) and the response is "so redo all those pages." Psiharis 05:37, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Artifact Set Template and Icons
Spoke with you briefly in IRC about adjusting the Artifact Set template to allow multiple Icons to be listed in the set and also for multiple rewards. Have you had a chance to review what I was trying to do with those templates (see Abyssal Ritual Jars and the corresponding templates edit history)

If this is not something you have time to work personally, can you point me to someone or a reference that may be able to help me figure it out. I am about ready to do the mass update to all sets, so they actually have pages and the individual Artifacts also will get done. But don't want to have to revisit them to change the format if we figure out a nicer way. Image is everything after all.

It has been hinted at that the Wiki could be mass updated by a bot from outside sources, such as a spreadsheet or database. Is that an option, I should I continue the path of just making the code in my spreadsheet and manually updating all the pages. I ask, because there are a lot of artifacts, and I have already typed the information once.


 * haha, I was just thinking about delving deeper into the Mediawiki API to do a mass addition of artifact pages, so that ilink templates wouldn't break so often. Unless it's been intentionally disabled, I'm pretty sure all the functionality from http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php is available (link was from mediawiki.org so it shouldn't be wikipedia-specific), including page edits. I think there's no reason to worry much about formatting wiki pages for all 1200-ish artifacts, since batch reformatting should be pretty simple through the API. ...oh heck, Mediawiki supports JSON and everything? That's practically cheating. I might be able to kludge together a submission form and javascript parser right inside the artifacts pages. May be a while before I have the time, but it looks quite feasible.
 * Psiharis 21:43, 24 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey, I'll take a look at the pages you linked. Sorry for the delay but I'm having some issues at the moment (new job among other things), so haven't had the time to get to some of it.  It's worth checking the Mediawiki IRC Channel on Freenode as well if you have questions - some people know a LOT there!  There are ways to update the wiki from external sources, although we might have to get an extension added for some of the more fancy importing (the API that Psiharis linked is more for exports I think?).  --<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 11:04, 25 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for taking a look, I just finished my spreadsheet, so it is ready to feed the Wiki monster, take a look at my talk page for the details. Just need to know how to proceed from here. Thanks

--Sarcandosa 22:04, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to confirm what you were asking. I looked at Abyssal Ritual Jars...  Mainly are you asking for an icon for the set and then for each bit inside the set on the set page? --<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 19:56, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


 * What I am looking for is the ability to add the icons for each item in the set. So instead of the dot you would get the actual icon for each artifact. I could only ever get it to put the icon for the last one that was coded, but it would repeat that icon for all 4 artifacts. The second part was to put the icon with the reward name. Third part was to be able to add multiple rewards and the corresponding icon. Forth was to center the level. If you look at the updated spreadsheet, you will see all the available information for each artifact and set. Just trying to make sure that it is all represented to make the WIKI the best possible source. Once the templates are set, then I can have my spreadsheet generate the code and just copy and paste like crazy and get every set and every artifact updated in a day, assuming I have to do it manually.

--Sarcandosa 20:10, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Bot notice
Just letting you know that I'm playing with a secondary account named ParserBot, do not be alarmed by its edits to my user pages. ;) If it could be added to the 'bot' user group, that would be great. I think the only thing that user group does is default to hiding the bot's spammy edits on the Recent Changes page. Psiharis 16:48, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I've added the bot to the user group. :) --<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 19:53, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

The official Rift FTP zips
I've just grabbed the ability icons zip from the official rift FTP server and it seems to have a large amount of icons missing. Was just wondering if you've had any dealing with getting them from here, since I don't know how you got your fully complete set of icons!
 * Hello! I haven't checked the latest dump... but earlier dumps did seem to contain all icon images.  On the wiki around 6000 images are from the ftp and another thousand are uploads from users I think. --<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 13:17, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I had thought it odd that they'd provide this and then leave it lacking. Guess I need to find someone there to prod about it. Oh and on another note, I'm also getting the MSN error trying to add you that someone else commented on. Says it's not a valid email address.
 * That MSN thing is so odd! send me an email (should be on the bottom right under Toolbox) with your info and I'll add you myself.  NO idea why it doesn't work!--<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 21:43, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Rift FTP dump's options?
Is there anyway that these XML's can be used to populate any of the items etc? not really understanding how the wiki could be used to do it or if one of the other guys/girls could code something to export the data and upload it in some way, all the original outfitter items need to be updated due to the armour changes on cloth items and im still trying to populate the end of the table (took some time to lvl to 50 :)) would just be nice to make the items database a little more populated and with all the information out there just trying to work out the best way to do it. <span style="border: green solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#181818;font-size:.9em">  Larryl0099  talk &bull; cont 14:00, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, someone is working on that XML but I'm not sure how long it will take. :( Basically the XML dumps just need to be run through something that changes the format so it looks like the Special:Export XML dumps on the wiki (and match them up to templates).  I hope it's not too much longer...--<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 21:43, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Ajax tooltips on french wiki
Hi, could you have a look at the ajax tooltips on the french wiki and see why it's not working? I've created lots of item pages with the ilink template, and the ilink template looks for the 'ajaxtt' class. But I'm not sure where to look for 'ajaxtt' (probably not a file I can edit, even if I knew where it was). Here's a sample page containing items which are supposed to be displayed as tooltips: http://fr.telarapedia.com/wiki/Qu%C3%AAte:Morceau_d%27Histoire Thanks, Aure
 * Hi, Aure! I'll have to take a look.  Basically I think we need to copy Mediawiki:Common.css and Mediawiki:Common.js at a minimum. --<span style="border: black solid 1px;padding:4px 2px 2px;-moz-border-radius:.3em;-webkit-border-radius:.3em;background-color:#191919;font-size:.9em"> Ciovala Talk 11:32, 26 April 2011 (UTC)